Competition 2 for 2010- Magikal herb kit prize

Well February already and time for another competition with yet another great, prize. The wonderful David Michael has donated a Magickal herb kit with 60+ magickal herbs in it for the winner.

This one is open for registered students only folks.

If you had to explain to someone who or what you're connecting to when you do divination, what would you say?

Imagine that you are chatting with someone from outerspace who has no idea about your concept of spirituality or religion. You''re using your Tarot cards, oracle cards, crystal, Runes, or whatever form of divination is your favourite to get some inner, celestial or otherwise unknown wisdom. Where do those insights come from? How would you explain that to your new alien friend?
I'm also going to ask a member of the Coven Council to judge this one so get your entries in quick!

Lilitu's picture

I would tell my friend that

I would tell my friend that my answers come through intuition, which I have because of my connection with the Source - the 'everything that is', the collective God & Goddess energy that gives all things life, vitality and knowledge. I believe that every person has their own connection with Source, which is what we call intuition. When we are quiet and clam we can hear the voice of Source much more clearly. That split second when we are in crisis and everything slows down, where every minute detail is crystal clear - that is when our connection to Source becomes solid, when we really open ourselves up to guidance.. That is when Source really speaks to us, though our intuition.  It is through Source that we know things we have not been taught. Our connection with Source is constant, however more often that not the NOISE of ego and our 3D world deafens out Source's quiet whisper.

~Lilitu~

May you Find what you Seek
And Share what you Know.

2012ology
The End. The Beginning. The Rebirth.
butterfly_spirit's picture

Who or what am I connecting with? hmmmm

I am connecting to the spirit of all life. Divination comes from the word Divine which tells me that I am trying to connect with the Divine Spirit to guide me through the path I (or somebody else) SEEK Guidance for.   When we talk of Divination, people automatically think of tarot, crystal balls, and other tools available,  what we are really doing is chanelling our own energies and allowing the universal energies to speak to us, we call the result of this process psychic abilities. I Think the strongest form of divination is meditation, because when we practice divination we are travelling in a sacred space of our mind - the subconscious - the third eye - this is what we believe holds all of the answers to the questions at hand - and all the connections to the psychic powers that are in "EVERYTHING" around us.  I'ts just a matter of tuning into this awareness.  Ultimately we are seeking to tap into the part of being, or the right brain, that we are not accustomed to using.

I would try to discuss all of this, I would ask for any help from their experiences and lessons to learn more about the spirit of life so I could understand how to truly tap into my Devine Self - Who is after all, part of the One Divine Spirit!

I am a living spirit in a human body and not a human body with a spirit. The human body is the vessle and the host is much forgotten about and has stopped being nurtured by daily use.

I've made a few changes to my post above, and am having fun thinking about this question,  so I would like to add more food for thought.  I would say; 

The art of divination is a process that uses our imagination.  When we use our imagination, or when we practice our psychic abilities we imagine the answer, the imagination is what manifests reality.  With applied effort, opening ourselves up to the energies around us everyday we are able to receive the messages more clearly offered through Divination and live a more spiritual life. 

...... still thinking and will try to add some more.........:) ok, changed a few words again, this an "evolving answer" lol,

With Grace, Peace and Love, Butterfly Spirit! Online Student Senior Representative. Come and Sit a Spell, your Friendship is so Sweet!! To have a Cup of Tea with You, is such a Special Treat!!!
Phoenix2's picture

Interesting...

Great question!

This is so hard to verbalise and make sense of. For me, this is something I do from one level to another, building up. Firstly, I would say I am drawing on my subconscious. I believe that everything I have ever known and learnt in past lives is still within me and I know I used Tarot in previous lives, so everything I learnt then, I know now. As Tarot uses symbolism, it's meaning is known by everyone, as the symbols are universal, even within different decks. It's using your intuition and inner knowledge to 'decode' and discover the true meaning. Saying that, I believe there are multiple meanings to the same symbol, it just depends on the question you want answers to as to what you 'remember' at the time. I ask angels and the Lord and Lady for help when something isn't clear but due to the interconnectedness of everything, I am acually connecting to everyone! I don't know about anyone else, but usually when I am truly connected, I forget I'm even talking to someone. I usually say, 'you know when you're talking to someone on the phone, and you get so into telling a story, you forget they're there? That's the feeling I get when I do a proper reading.' I don't know how many people do that but it's a really insular feeling; that's how I know I'm truly connected to the Universe, where all the information is. So ultimately, with interconnection, I am asking the Universe, which is to say, everyone! Thanks for the help! ;)

'Aim for the moon, even if you miss, you'll still land amongst the stars.'
davidmichael's picture

Magick, herbs, prizes OH MY

I have had a chat with Amethyst and asked if I could provide a prize (along with the mystery prize) for this competition (just like old times).

I have a great herb starter kit with over 60 magicak herbs. It would be a great prize for anyone interested in Herbal Magick or making their own incense. Some of the herbs were collected by myself during the last Scorpio Full Moon. I have the complete list of them at home. I am presently at work, but will make an addition to this post with the full list of herbs later on today.

In Love and Light

David

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Amethyst's picture

Fantastic Prize donated by David Michael

Just as an update folks, David Michael has kindly donated the prize for this competition which is a magikal herb kit with over 60 herbs in it. So now you better get your thinking caps on if you want to be in to win!

Thank you our darling David Michael, I know this will motivate folk! :)

With smiles and blessings,
Amethyst
Oak and Mistletoe Founder, Elder and Chair

Lilitu's picture

Thank you David for supplying

Thank you David for supplying this amazing prize!!

 

~Lilitu~

May you Find what you Seek
And Share what you Know.

2012ology
The End. The Beginning. The Rebirth.
Ocean Stormdancer's picture

Okay, heres a try

I believe, when Im using my tarot cards, that they take from the energy,that I focus into them, from deep inside me, I suppose that I draw from my innermost being and ask a question, or ask for a general read. When I do cards for others, I first shuffle through my cards "grounding" them with calm, neutral energy- that I again pull from inside the deepest of my being- then hand the cards over to the person wanting a reading, and tell them to focus their thoughts and energy into the cards and the question they seek answers for.

Where does the energy I can draw from come from? Its as though I can feel it come from the earth itself- walking barefoot on grass, or toching a leaf or flower, I can feel that energy, in the earth, in a plant, and can bring this energy into myself, and store it there, or just use it to calm myself down after a stressfull day. All the living creatures and plants have a natural energy about them- a basic life energy- and it is also this energy, which is inside me that I can use to help in using my cards.

Gee this is certianly harder than I would have thought- putting it into words!

Follow your heart, as it knows the way...
davidmichael's picture

OK home now

The herbs in the herbal starter kit are 6gms packages of the follow:

Acorns, Agrimony, Echinacea, Myrrh, Angelica, Elder, Nettle, Arabic Resin, Fennel, Oak Bark, Basil, Feverfew, Oppoponax, Bay, Frankincense, Patchouli, Benzoin, Galangal, Quassia, Betony Wood, Ginger, Rose, Bladderwrack, Ginseng, Rosemary, Burdock, Hawthorn, Rue, Calamus, Hibiscus, Sage, Calendula, Horehound, Sandalwood, Catnip, Jasmine, Scullcap, Chamomile, Juniper, Australian Waratah, Spearmint, Cinnamon, Lady’s Mantle, St John’s Wort, Clove, Lavender, Star Anise, Comfrey, Lemongrass, Thyme Leaf, Copal Resin, Mandrake, Valerian, Cornsilk, Mistletoe, White Willow, Damiana, Mugwort, Wormwood, Dandelion, Mullein, Yarrow, Australian green lichen, Australian grevillia.

Although by the time the competition ends I may have added some more.

In Love and Light

David

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Starsong's picture

Divination for Aliens

I guess to explain divination to a hypthothetical alien, for starters, one would have to explain the interconnection between humans, the earth and the spirit plane... This is difficult enough to explain to a human, although without preconcieved ideas, maybe the aliens would be more open :P

Divination is the art of communicating with our gods and guides... We communicate with them using many devices including tea leaves, tarot cards, pendulums, astrology, scrying and palm reading and many other ways... We interpret the signs that come with these methods. There is always a set way to read these signs. We use these signs to guide us in our everyday lives.

I hope that the alien understands a little better now.

Blessed be XXX

desertwoman's picture

Ok so we are assuming  that

Ok so we are assuming  that these  aliens have no concept of my spirituality!

Thats a tricky one !     I would begin by trying to establish a concept of the earth and apparently inanimate objects having an their own energy and connection to each other . I would try and explain this by comparing it to  heater. An object that appears to have no life of its own, projects heat (energy) and effects the environment around it with this heat. If you are aware of what  the heater does you can anticipate what will happen and why. ( the plastic object near the heater may melt or that the entire room will get hotter eventually) . OK  so the next step would be to explain how  these energies together, can manifest in many different ways! When using a divination tools of any kind you are tapping into that energy force and seeing what may happen or what has  happened that will effect later events or emotions.  This energy or  is also inside each of us. This is the direct link we connect with when we use divination.

Through meditation and truely listening we can understand how our own emotions and actions effect the energy and environment around us.  We can talk to the Divine through the messages sent using this energy. 

I may have over simplified the technique and concept here. But i think if youwere trying to explain divination to someone that had no idea to begin with this would be enough to begin with. I would then begin to explain the intricacies a little bit at a time !

Blessings

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Mystick Wildflower's picture

competition...

 would say.......

I beleive there is more then just you and me, touch their body and say more then this physical body and my physical body.Put your hand above myn...can you feel that warmth?I believe there is somthing in this exisatance and our worldly enviroment which we cannot see.I also beleive that when some one vanishes from my sight I can still connect with them in spirit...as they leave somthing behind, psychically as once we have connected we will forever know one anothers voice and appearence.I also think that creatures from the past are below and above us in another world, they are my mythical guides who give me messages within my own body, mind and spirit.I have owned pets in this existance who have left their bodies behind to perish into the earth and their spirit will always be able to connect with me as we are soul matesMy family also pass over and I beleive they give me knowledge and messages that I would otherwise miss out on whilst they are gone.I also have an ancient spirit guide who hold much wisdom as I progress on my life journey I gain more from this guide of wisdom about my ancestoral tribes and past lives.An angel who guides me like a dog would to the blind and protect me like a mother does her newborn.Then the god & goddess make the big decisions are guides to my guides from a higher realm!!!!

 

When I need guidance or a question answered I can talk to a crystal and ask, I can use oracle or tarot cards to open me up for guidance I can use runes for their ancient knowledge and messages.These are all tools to assist in gaining insight into situations where I need more help than any other can give in that moment.Divination gives me hope for the future, guidance for the now and reasurrance of the past.It is magickal to me......magick being somthing amazing and scientific, a metaphysical happening that takes place with good intentions and faith.

 

I could not survive very long without the art of divination in my life..........

goddess bless........ )0(
Seraphimia's picture

My instant thought when asked

My instant thought when asked this question here, is of tapping into the divine source for the energy I need, the universal source. Energy is something that I've become interested in for a few years now after reading various books from science to The Celestine Prophecy, all relating to this idea of everything being made of energy including ourselves. That we share energy and can give back energy to mother earth. This is where the idea of focusing and talking to plants is based, in giving plants some of your energy, back to mother nature.

So even when I do personal reading for example, my thought is of the same energy source. For me personally I use runes, oghams and my faerie oracle cards, because the faeries speak to me the clearest and give me the most energy in return in helping give me clarity. A reading can take a lot of energy given it's nature so to rely only on my own energy would wear me out pretty quickly and I know no other abundant energy source and also loving source of energy than the divine.

As for explaining this to an alien, I guess I would try and explain the science at first, how everything is made of energy, but also that, that energy can be tapped into. That a method is used to prepare one self to harness that energy and then direct it, much like a device uses energy and directs itself toward a destination we too direct the energy toward a desired outcome and furthermore an understanding and connection.

As for using energy, I am always sure to give some back though, through other aspects of my life... "fairly take and fairly give"
 


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butterfly_spirit's picture

naughty "and" nice!

Back to your old tricks David, lol.  Yes, just like old times You are so generous!  I don't know whether to call you Naughty or Nice (giggles) that's ok just be both, naughty and nice :)

With Love,

Butterfly Spirit!

Senior Online Student Representative

Come and Sit a Spell, Your Friendship is so Sweet! To have a Cup of Tea with You, Is such a Special Treat!

With Grace, Peace and Love, Butterfly Spirit! Online Student Senior Representative. Come and Sit a Spell, your Friendship is so Sweet!! To have a Cup of Tea with You, is such a Special Treat!!!
Michelle2's picture

A universal consciousness

First I want to say thank you to David for so generously offering this wonderful prize.

I've enjoyed reading everyone's responses and wanted to add an answer of my own.

Starting at the beginning, I believe that within every living thing there is a spark, an energy if you will, which inhabits our bodies and which survives its death and may be re-born into a new body later. This energy is our consciousness and holds within it all the experiences accumulated through our lives. Our consciousness, as well as that of everyone else is connected through the energy that exists within the Universe at any given time. You can call this the Source, or God(dess), Universal Light - to me they are all the same. This energy holds within it all knowledge of everything and every-time.

When I practice divination I use tools - for me this is tarot, for others it can be runes, ogham, whatever works for you - to connect with the part of my consciousness that is still connected to the Universe. Through the symbolism of the cards the Universe can help me see deep within the pattern of the tapestry that makes up our lives and help me see myself in the bigger picture. This allows me to obtain knowledge on a deeper level regarding where I am at in my life, where I am going. By seeing part of the path ahead of me I might be able to change my course (or stay on it), to one more beneficial.

As for the practical aspect of divination I would show the alien my cards and explain the symbolism I see within them. How the numbers and the suits represent different things, i.e. one's represent beginnings, and cups represent water. Water represents feelings and emotions. If there is also a ten of coups in the spread, this might symbolize the beginning of a happy relationship or home life, perhaps a marriage or children, etc.

Essentially divination is a way of taking a step back and looking at the bigger picture of the complex tapestry that makes up life. We are all part of a large tapestry, but being a single strand of thread it can be difficult to see what part of the pattern we make up. Divination helps us see the pattern.

Brightest blessings, Michelle (formerly Gwennie) http://aspiralpath.wordpress.com/
anna's picture

Rune Cards

I would get out my Rune cards, light a candle and insence. I would then clear my mind and say aprayer as I scuffle my cards.

Prayer: Mighty Odin, Runic keeper, Guide my mind and be my teacher, Grant your wisdom that I may see the message that is meant to be. Then I thank the God Odin.

Then I lay out my cards and read them right one for past, middle one for now, and left one for future. They will tell me where I am in my life. I also do my daily readings, I concentrate on what I want to know about then turn my card over and read it. If I decide to ask the elders or grandparents yes and no questions I ask them politely and thank them when I'm done. You can also put the Rune signs together to make one and use the sign troughout the day looking for them in things you see. They are always accurate. I trust and believe in them.----------Freya, Norse Goddess Freya, Mistress of Love,  Beauty, and War she is feice and lovely, embodies the grace, power, and magick that the word Goddess conjures up. Freya also Freyja and The Lady - is a fertility Goddess, one of the Vanir. She joined Asir and came to live in Asgard with her brother Frey and taught magick to Odin. She is the patron Lady of young lovers, warriors,and many witches and cats. Her magick is strong and her compassion is legendary.  Blessed Be! Anna Morning Flower

Iv'e bee a solitary witch for 6 years and just joined Oak@ Mistletoe a couple weeks ago. I hope to continue learning wicca to better myself. I was just informed I'm going to be a grandma again for the eight.
twilightrain's picture

Runes

First, I would start by telling the alien about the belief system in which I live; explain how everyone and everything is connected, and we are all one. I then would explain how I am, and everything else is considered energy. To make myself feel whole I connect with the energy in myself, and what is around me by sitting, breathing slowly, and feeling the energy from the earth and all that surrounds. Since, I already explained to the alien about the story of Lord and Lady; I'd tell him that I always include them and the divine and am sure to thank them by celebrating what they have given to us.

If I happen to not hear the messages of the lessons that I am to learn; ( maybe because I'm not centered, grounded, or have other outside interferences). I use other means of communication to hear the lessons. I then would show them runes. I would start by showing the alien each symbol on the rune, and explain what they mean, and how to interpretate them according to the situation I am in at the time. I then would show an example of how I would read them. As well as making sure to let them know that I like to meditate on the answer, and apply it to my life.

I of course would tell the alien what spirituality meant to me. How I feel that is a feeling, of oneness with the divine, and how I incorporate it into my everyday life. When I know that I am spiritually connected by feeling and beleiving in the energy around me I then can begin to live a life of peace. I would let him know that part of my spirituality involves respecting what is given to us. As long as I harm none; I can do what I want. Receiveing food from Lord and Lady is a gift, and I thank them by planting new harvests every year, and giving them offerings of such gifts to share with me. I celebrate on special days throught the year for their genorosity on a spiritual level.

Again I would make sure that the alien would know if I am lost that I can ask for guidence through my runes, and listen to the subtle answers, so that I can use them to live the best possible way. Without my spirituality, which is the "heartbeat" of life, I would be a lost soul. Through continued spirituality I can keep myself aligned with the energy, the Lord and Lady, other people, nature, and myself. Learning to listen and absorb the positivity of my gift is when I can begin to grow. In a nutshell the alien would know that spirituality is different for every person, and it is a feeling, a way of living, and applying the lessons of becoming one into my everyday life; and sometimes the anwers are unclear or I lose track of my purpose then there are other ways of communicating with the divine. Such as runes, tarot, and such.....

TWILIGHT RAIN, TO YOU I SEND LOVE AND LIGHT TO GO WITH YOU TROUGH YOUR PLIGHT :)
twilightrain's picture

for consiceration

In my above post I mentioned what my belief system is, (oneness, energy, etc.) and let the alien know that he/she is also part of the whole; making them us, and in return making us them as well. I definately would have to keep in mind that we "all" make the wholeness.

TWILIGHT RAIN, TO YOU I SEND LOVE AND LIGHT TO GO WITH YOU TROUGH YOUR PLIGHT :)
tempeststar's picture

Competition 2\2010

Well i'd first of all would say Wicca is my religion  Witchcraft is what I do and I'm a Witch cause I cast circles and a Pagan cause I trust our Mother Nature to protect vegetative life as well as animal life on our planet Earth.  How much I respect her for all her miracles of wondrous colors during different season changes through out the year. My religion is based on belief, magick, spells and nature. As a Pagan I'm very well tuned into what my surroundings are, meaning life forces and it's habitats, as well other thing involved here on Earth. First of all Outer Space is where the heavenly bodies. What I mean by this there are , other properties such a stars,  moon, sun and yes! Even the rainbow has a meaning to me. The moon, sun controls are tides how and when the sign shines on the back side of the moon separating the sunlight from one half of the sun. Darkness to the other side of the moon which separates  points of different places of our hemisphere. While the moonlight shines on one part of the world the sun shines as well on another part of the world all at the sometime.  I believe in more than one God! And many Goddesses! They help me with what ever I need at the moment to do my magick and protection from harmful spirits that may be leerking around, me at that time.Ii use tarot to help answer many questions concerning the past present and feature. How I do this I ground myself in to the roots of our planet to keep me safe from harmful forces. Meditate to see the beginning  results of what I hope to see through my cards  tell me what I must do or not.  It helps with advise for others or me. The cards are plainly marked with symbols that have meaning to me to help me know the out comes of my reading the cards. As well as the four elements and their element's.  Each color of a card helps me to identify and associate symbols and their meaning to a colors  associateion this with the out come. This can be quite draining of course! I even lose track of time when I'm in a light trance type momentum but I'm very much tuned into what is being asked of me, what i'm seeking for an answer perhaps to a problem for a favorable out come.! The end of the reading when it's over I ground my self to release some of the energy  this makes me tired and feel drained at times! When I do a readingIi call upon my Gods\ Goddesses to protect me.  I use herbs, candles. Herbs to attract the deities of my choice and the herbs cause it might be compelling or favorite scent of the Gods.   Colors of the candles all represent important things  in my reading \magick!  Blue candle is for calm and peace hoping this will attract only good spirits. Red well this color can either mean evil or love. Referring to what's going on and what i'm trying to do. like  sending harm to someone I'd use the red candle for this action. But I would never do any  to harm anyone , cause it goes against our law the Rede. Or I might use red just in case someone like my spouse thinks I no longer love him Ii'd use my magickal spell to hopefully let him know I do love him and he is the man of my dreams. White is for  Spirit or God one that is a for purity, honesty.  Most of all to protect me in the white light  that surrounds me.  I truly believe in all spirituality that the things we seek is truly deep with in our spirituality and our spirit.  When doing the Tarot or magick actually it is coming form deep inside my spiritual being meaning myself. I shall find answers to all my questions with faith, prayer I can make it possible for a favorable out come for me or someone else. So you see my friend, all you have to do is look inside yourself and that's not very far!  All well is well. I don't make promises just state the facts and how I see and read them. Blessed be Tempest Star

Michelle2's picture

On further thought

I've been thinking about this question all day, and I've come up with a second explanation as well, which might make more sense to an alien.

If we imagine the Universe/Source/Divinity is constantly trying to help us and guide us through the language of symbols. Because the understanding of the Divine is so much greater than ours we cannot always understand their language. By utilizing divinitory tools we are using an alphabet that can help us interpret the language of the Divine. I suppose it could be considered a dictionary of sorts. Or like picture cards for children: c - cat and then a picture of a cat.

Essentially divination is a way for humans to try to understand the Divine, through symbols and images.

Brightest blessings,

Gwennie

Brightest blessings, Michelle (formerly Gwennie) http://aspiralpath.wordpress.com/
raziel's picture

Divination - How it works

I would try & explain to my alien friend that Dvination is a means of communing with the Divine (or Source, or Universe, or One, or whatever you would call it) via specific tools or methodology (i.e. Tarot, Scrying, Channelling, Runes, I Ching, etc..)

It is a means of re-linking with our higher selves or spirit guides (as we lose memory of how much we truly are when we are on this side of the veil in a physical body in a realm where time/space/phyical laws hold sway), we are able to tap back into the Divine (as we are all one at the end of the day) & draw relevant knowledge from the collective consiousness & see along the lines of space & time which we cannot normally see via our physical eyes without practice or tools.

Short & Sweet as I am at work on a lunch break - but shows how I look at Divination.

Blessed Be My Brothers & Sisters..

Coven Council: New Student Guide

"Magick is the Science and Art of causing Change to occur in conformity with Will" - A. Crowley

sea girl's picture

competition

ok I am new at this, I have had that special connection plenty of times before, but explaining it to people even ones who know what my spirituality is, is hard. So I think I would tell them in a story/poem form of how the moment happened.  I actually had that connection yesturday wich i wrote in my journal.  So here it goes alien friend............... I ventured out into the cold morning, in a hurry like usual.  then with one deep breath of fresh clean air is when it hit me ( though not realizing it till later that evening), time seemed to stop.  It was like an outer body experience, the lord and lady telling me to slow down for a minute and see what's happening around you.  pretty sure they would look at me funny as everyone usually does. Then I would go on to explain that my connection with the universe is like any connection you would have with a friend. The feeling of closeness, companionship, and security.  I feel that my intuition is how the lord and lady speek to me, whether it in a dream or a de javu. Letting me know whats going to happen if i just pay attention. since i dont know how to call forth or controle when these preminitions come i dont always know that they are happening till the insident happens. It's a magickal experience that makes you feel so very special, and there's no 21st century gadget that can give you the same glorious feeling that is found deep inside your subconcious if you just shut everything out and listen to what is being said.

 

now im not sure if that is what you are looking for, but that is how i would explain it for myself.

thank you for reading............. sea girl

may the wind carry your mind and heart to great hights..........

Unegawaya's picture

duyuktv

I pondered this question and felt that i would answer my friend in this manner..Everything is a circle it is all connected.Every tree plant bird and stone has a life force and a spiritual point .In order to draw on these powers i believe one must be in harmony with the circle.no one thing in my beliefs can function without the help of another and no one person can pulll hi or her wisdom from these things unless they are in harmony with them..a good example of my tradition of this is duyuktv also known to the cherokee as the right way...before the green corn ceromony we go down to the river ..the whole village goes into the water with their faces painted white..here we face east and pray to the cardinal directions and ask that all negative thoughts are removed no bad feelings toward anything or anyone can be brought into our circle...only if u achieve this{it is based on a honor system and people do admit if they cant achieve this}can one enter the circle....after you have cpmpletely let go of all the petty nonsense that comes with everyday life you can look at a tree and know it has its power it has its purpose and you can feed of of that energy if need be.

i am what i am and not what i never will be
Kate2's picture

My explanation

Well....this  is a hard one!

 

But I would have to tell our little alien that, I believe, what we tap into when we  use divination tools such as, tarot or runes, is the spirit of Gaia, our earth, and its elementals. I would explain that Gaia is the energy force and spirit of our planet and that our energy is connected to hers, and that she is, therefore, our guide. Which is why I feel that my tarot and rune readings are stronger when done outdoors in nature. I would explain that its our ancestors from all around the world used to live from nature, hunting and gathering etc. And its my belief that Gaia provided for them and guided them and when we tap into that guidance and energy when we use divination tools.

 

Hope our little alien friend  understands this :)

Blessed Be Kate
davidmichael's picture

cheeky

I must say it is so wonderful to see photos of people since I was last a regular contributor.

You are indeed beautiful.

Have you had updates from the orangutan you adopted??

I am going over to visit the orangutan sanctuary next year with my partner. I'll make sure I forward any photos or video on to you.

Just wanted to say, and I feel a bit awkward saying this, but I truly honestly felt your presence during my convalesence
. There is a definite connect!ion!!.


Thank you! and congratulations on your position in the coven, richly deserved!!!!!

Always thinking good thoughts and beeming them towards you.

Love and Light

David

(A little bit naughty but mainly nice)

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Anya's picture

Unknown wisdom

I'm not sure I'd try to explain all of the spirituality first, poor alien couldn't take it all in before the comp closes ;)
So here goes...

I use rune stones, which are a set of 25 small stones carved with symbols. The symbols are full of meanings that can be linked to the way I live my life. When I have a situation in my life that I can't solve, I choose runes by pulling them out of a bag, not looking to choose but picking the stones that in someway feel 'different' to the others. I believe if a stone is chosen, it's meanings have something to say about my life right now. The symbols all have more than one meaning, and it is up to me to choose which meaning is most likely to apply to my life right now.
With a combination of knowledge about my own life, and the symbols meanings, I can often see the situation differently, because the runes have shown what aspects are most important right now. With this new frame of mind, the situation I am asking the runes for help with is solved more easily.
The number of stones I choose to use is related to the severity of the situation or my ability to cope with it. Three stones are the most common number, showing what has been that is affecting me now, what the situation is now, and it's most important aspect, and the action I need to look at taking to over-come it.

Summing up, the wisdom comes from me, a part of me that only the runes can unlock :)
Blessings
Anya

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twilightrain's picture

I was

 I was just reading over everyone's answers, including my own, and a thought came to me. Rather then tell him a story, or explain the divinatory thing. I would just "SHOW" him/her/it?  What if the alien doesn't understand our language?

TWILIGHT RAIN, TO YOU I SEND LOVE AND LIGHT TO GO WITH YOU TROUGH YOUR PLIGHT :)
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♥ David

Thanks David, I'm glad you feel that way, the energy and thoughts you give me are remarkable, I've never felt anything like it before!  Your partner must be a very special person and it is obvious to sayhe would be glad your home again ☺

I do get updates for little Miriam, she is doing well and is looked after by gentlemen named Peter from what I remember in my last update received.  She has had a visit from someone in Perth WA zoo!!! It's great you will have the opportunity to visit the sanctuary, what an excellent holiday you will both have!  I would absolutely love to see some pics or video's whichever you are able to email me would be fantastic :)  Thank You!!!

With Great Love,

Butterfly Spirit!

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conscious, subconscious, unconscious

As individuals we have different levels of awareness; conscious, subconscious, and unconscious.  When I divine with tarot cards, I look at the images, and somehow my subconscious mind will pick up the elements of the images that I need to see, and relay those details to my conscious mind so I can work with them.  I don't pick up the same things in a given card each time it appears.  What my subconscious notices relates to the question of a given reading.  So far, none of this is very spiritual; it's merely that a buried part of my mind knows the answer. 

The rather miraculous part of tarot is that the cards that turn up, make sense; as not every card would fit every question!  This may be where our unconscious level fits in, which I believe is our link with the divine and the interpersonal, and where our "forgotten" life purpose and life lesson plans reside.  The term "unconscious" is meaningful only relative to our conscious minds.  We cannot reach the unconscious but with our subconscious as an intermediary, but the "unconscious" is perfectly aware of our soul purpose.  We are not aware of what cards we pull before we pull them, but I suggest that our divine awareness moves our hands on the unconscious level so that we turn up the appropriate cards; and thus we can work the answer back through our subconscious awareness to our conscious minds. 

So:  Conscious asks Subconscious the question; Subconscious asks Unconscious; Unconscious is our direct connection with divine awareness.  Divine awareness guides our hands; Subconscious understands the important details of the cards that Unconscious has chosen; then Subconscious tells Conscious so Conscious can make appropriate decisions based on the reading.

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I was going to reply...

Until I read JBW's post.

This echoes my own beliefs and it is what is taught in the Esoteric Orders I belong to. It is not only the ancient beliefs of both the West and the East, but is being increasing proven with modern science. I sense JBW that there is so much compressed wisdom in your post - I would love to see you expand on it.

Your summary is pure occult GOLD.

If you follow JBW's conscious connections,

Self-conscious implants info into Subconsciousness which then processes the information and is able to communicate with the Un (or Super) Consciousness,

then the importance of "cleaning-up" your subconscious mind and insuring that the self-conscious mind brings SPIRITUALLY TRUTHFUL information to subsconsciousness is paramount. JBW has given the underlying science behind all esoteric practices and technology. It to simply to achieve these two goals. Again if you follow the mental diagram given by JBW then it follows by simple logic that if your self conscious (SUN/GOD) and sub-conscious (MOON/GODDESS) are purified and alligned with TRUTH then you will be able to access the SUPER-conscious level with ease and skill. This is the true purpose of all divination, and indeed all magick.

Fan-freaking-tastic post JBW.

In Admiration and Respect

David

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Aw, sheepdip, DavidMichael! 

Aw, sheepdip, DavidMichael!  You'll make my head all swole!

I'm glad you've found meaning in my post, but truthfully I only kinda put the ideas together while I was typing the answer, and was madly editing and compacting the post so it wouldn't be so blithering.  I don't know if I can expand. 

It's been a long time since I read anything of Freud, so I'm probably misremembering about the Unconscious.  It hasn't been as long since I read Jung, and what I think he said was that we have our everyday consciousness, our subconscious/dream awareness/trance state, and we have our unconscious.  What is in our unconscious, we are obviously unaware of, but it is there and shaping us.  Maybe the Psyche in psychology.  Or putting things another way using four components, in terms of personality, there is our public self, our private thoughts, the things about us that other people see but to which we are oblivious, and the things that neither we nor others are aware of.  This last being the unconscious, which is there and shaping us. 

I've joined the idea of the unconscious to the idea of the soul's goals for a given lifetime, which I first read about some years ago in Thomas More's Care of the Soul.  Between lives we parley with other, mentor souls (aka spirit guides), and choose what lessons we learn next, and what environments we should be born into to support those lessons; and when we are born onto the world's stage we forget all the behind-the-scenes planning.  (Our life is but a sleep and a forgetting....)  But the programme is still imprinted on us in our "hard drive" or unconscious, and by means of the subconscious as mediator we can try to keep ourselves on track with our purpose.  Thus, we experience wise dreams, trances, insights, and trenchant divinations, brought from the unconscious through the subconscious to the conscious mind, because our unconscious or soul level wants us to learn and succeed. 

If we are scrying something like embers, "chance" takes care of how those may tumble and what patterns our subconscious eye sees.  But to explain how the right cards, runes, etc. end up in our readings, I am having to fudge in the assumption that our "unconscious awareness" is somehow choosing them, or our hands are guided...by an external force...or on the unconscious level, are we all one, and there is no external force?

This is all just a hypothesis.  I feel that others responding in this thread are putting forth similar ideas.  All I've tried to do, is bundle together the loose ends of theories that I find appealing, into the neatest grouping that I could come up with at the time of writing.  The component ideas are not original.

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giggles, giggles

Your Right! We might be able to communicate through telepathy even! Not a word or action perhaps?

We wouldn't want him to pull out his laser gun! Made from crystals that are still unknown to earthlings of course, hehe, hehe. I'm still smiling, thanks for the smiles  =[ ;-D )

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funny

Maybe we can teach them about Charades, smiles. I'm not sure I spelled that correctly but I mean SHA-RAIDS; that's how I pronounce it just incase.

TWILIGHT RAIN, TO YOU I SEND LOVE AND LIGHT TO GO WITH YOU TROUGH YOUR PLIGHT :)
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Thank you

I really feel that you have accessed something wonderful.

Thank you so very much for sharing.

In Love and Light

David

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Wow JBW

These last two posts of yours have been *such* a delight to read. I feel like you've articulated my thoughts for me and it allows me to visualize my ideas much better, like an image coming into focus.

As for explaining how we draw the right cards I imagine that on a very high level we are all light, energy and vibration, i supposed this would be on the level of the unconscious. So even though our conscious mind is not aware and sees only the back of the deck or runes in a bag or whatever, our unconscious knows exactly which cards are in front of us, and together with the subconscious this allows us to pick the "right" card at the right time.

I think one of the reasons we draw the cards "unknowingly", that is our conscious mind is unaware even though the unconscious knows what it is doing, is because if our conscious mind saw the cards/runes we might pick what we wanted to see as opposed to what we actually need. If we were truly connected to all our levels of consciousness we could pick the right cards while consciously aware of them, or better yet we would need only one card (or ideally none I guess...) because that card would take on the correct meaning for us regardless of the situation through our interpretation of it. Much like a crystal ball I guess, which is always the same but can show us the images we need to see.

You have given me a lot to think on with your posts JBW, thank you :-)

Blessings, Gwennie

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Competition closing 25th Feb

Ok team O & M, this competition will be closing on the 25th Feb and we'll have a guest judge (one of the Council members) doing the judging this month. So get your entry post in quick if you want to win the herb kit prize!

With smiles and blessings,
Amethyst
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davidmichael's picture

Right On my Friend

Gwennie said: "These last two posts of yours have been *such* a delight to read. I feel like you've articulated my thoughts for me and it allows me to visualize my ideas much better, like an image coming into focus."

My sentiments exactly. JBW has really helped me make sense of a number of things in various posts.

She really hit the nail on the head with this one.

In Love and LIght

David

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The voice of Divinity

I've been thinking a lot about this thread after JBW's wonderful posts, and I wanted to throw something out there that maybe others have some input on.

Scientists seem to agree that the Universe "sings". The Universe creates vibrations, I can't remember if it's from the expansion of the Universe or just a background vibration from all the activity, and these vibrations make a deep sound. I've been thinking that maybe on some level we humans pick up this sound and respond to it, and this is in a way our unconscious.

Perhaps then every living thing creates similar vibrational sounds which might be our subconscious and are a way of responding both to the Universe and to other living entities that emit these vibrations. Even though we are not consciously aware of it these sound might influence our behaviors and thoughts.

We feel vibrations in our bodies, even if our ears cannot hear them, an example is our voice when recorded generally sounds very strange to us, but this is because when we speak we also feel the vibrations of our voice within us. This element is lost when we listen to a recording of our voice. Perhaps there are several layers of communication within our voice, related to the vibrations we emitt.

In Wicca/witchcraft (and many other religions) we are encouraged to watch what we say as our words have power. Perhaps some of this power comes through the vibrations we give off. These same vibrations might occur with our thoughts. We know that thoughts can cause physical changes in our bodies (at least they can in me). Perhaps these physical changes cause us to vibrate at a different frequency or energy level, causing us to give off a different sound and thereby attract/repel things in the world and Universe around us.

I don't know if this makes sense to anyone, I might have gone off on an (incorrect) tangent, but this thought has been bothering me all week and I really needed to post it here for some input.

Brightest blessings, Gwennie

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juneberrywine's picture

I'll have to chew this over

I'll have to chew this over some as I go about my morning chores, but surely thoughts will cause a physical reflex, and a physical reflex will cause a change in voice.  You know the difference in tone of voice when someone is saying the correct polite words, in a tight voice, and you know they'd rather tell you to go away and leave them alone!  Or if you're nervous but trying to sound calm, your voice is higher than normal and that vocal tremor just won't disappear.  Or if you're angry and every polite word conceals a dagger within it.  Words have power, all right, and not just what the words are, but the intention behind them, which can be heard by others as well.  (Don't look at me in that tone of voice! LOL)

I'll think some more on this and come back later.

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raziel's picture

Interesting Gwennie..

I quite like how you worded that - Words are indeed powerful whether written or spoken (or even thought) IMHO.

And the vibrational 'singing' of the universe you mentions makes me think of the sea of collective consiousness that is out there that we can all link & dip into).

Interesting..

Thank you for sharing Gwennie!! :)

Blessed Be..

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Very interesting thought!

To me, and maybe it's an angle of mis-interpretation here, but the beginning concepts feel somewhat inter-related to Astronomy (perhaps Astrology? I know little on it, truth be told)? Or at least, open to incorporation within it. The positioning of stars, planets, etc, are surely to affect these vibrations, as may their positions be related to vibrations, thus resulting in the alignments that reportedly hold sway over interaction of the world and those within it. For a very simple point, the tides relating to the position of the moon (Of course, again, I haven't bothered to look much into that. Perhaps this is more gravitational or something further, though in a way that in itself would affect vibration), or people holding more sombre moods and apparently (albeit perhaps just a rumour I heard and took in many years back) having a higher rate of depression and suicide in full moons. Etc etc etc.


I don't have too much to add on the concept of spoken word on this matter, but from a mood perspective, your mood will also affect the way your actions and manner of movement. For example, in moods of high stress at work I move faster, sometimes over-moving if sliding around (sounds odd, but I don't know how better to summarise it ;p). That in itself will doubtlessly give off a different aspect of vibration and energy, furthering the ripple effect of it. This is a concept I believe furthers your ideas of thought resulting in vibration.

I would love to hear a take on these concepts as brought up by Gwennie, from a psychological perspective. Vibration on the mind and body, from outside sources, the way it then transforms to internal outward-bound vibration and sensations/moods/energies/etc!

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Absolutely!

Absolutely something I would agree with :)  Greatly written Gwennie!

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Divination Connection

I've read all the posts and have come to the conclusion that I really have a lot to learn!

To explain how I use my tarot to someone who has no idea depends on their level of understanding. I often find children usually have a greater understanding than most adult.

This is how I explained it to my daughter when she was 8 (oh my, that was 10 years ago!).

The cards in the Tarot are like the words and pictures in a story book. To read this special story, you need to be calm and settled so you breathe and relax. Sometimes you relax so much that you see normal things differently or you feel like someone is standing behind you.

Then you shuffle the cards so that the characters in the story are all in right places and then you lay out the cards for the beginning, the middle and the end.

The stories help people make important decisions, like a map helps us when we get lost. Once we find out where we are, then we can work out where we have to go.

Light and love GM

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Tempest Star

I would explain that it is away of communicating on a higher level or realm to talk to our Gods\goddesses when i need their help or to assist me with my magical workings in a circle that i cast to do my works of healing or to help someone in need. even though I've never seen the goddesses\ Gods i know they hear my pleas and they do answer me in their own time and in their own ways through spiritual signs and energy and through visualizations to see the out come of my quest. If they were to ask how i know they do hear me? i will tell them because i have faith and faith is something you can't touch ,taste, smell, or hear, you just know their there with you. Faith is a powerful thing if only one believes in it! Anything is possible! my tools the Tarot, pendulum, and all the other tools are like a radio transmitter or perhaps a telephone into the next dimension of space and time. they help me make contact with the Divine. Through my will of power, and strength and lots of high energy is a direct connection to the Deity's and so forth. and i work under a Full Moon cause that is when the energy is the most strongest to make contact with the outer world realm./ It's kind of like a magnetic field a beam or a ray of energy to reach the gods and Goddesses of my choice. some are used for my protection some are for the work i'm doing to perform magick and some shield me from harm when in a circle that I have casted. the elements gives strength and help to raise power for my works and i'd tell what each element is for and what i hope it will do for me. And i tell them i only do works and magick to help someone not to harm anyone or thing. and I guess i'd explain why i have chosen like candle magick or herbal magick and what i hope to gain by these tools. i might even give them a small demonstration where they'd understand better if they could see some thing small and wonderful happen that they actually can't explain. like the calming of the winds or perhaps some sign of some sorts. any way then i'd tell them they are welcome to attend some of our rituals or festivals that aren't secretive. so they may understand our ways better. And not to judge us for what we are but what we can do. blessed be Tempest Star
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ok i thought i would pass on this one but! here i am!

Im a shocker at explaning things... but here we go

Hello my dear friends, im about to tell you a magical story that involves the you. Think back to your happiness moment in your life, think about who was with you, where you were, your surroundings, .....now feel the love that was there that day, the joyness that was around you like a blanket or a caccoon that surround you and hugges every inch fo you, That to me is the feeling or spirituality and my love for the wiccan religion. That is what makes me want to learn and follow the rede That is what makes me proud to call myself wiccan.It is not something you can hold or touch, its a feeling deep inside you that words have trouble to describe! it is fair beyound you or me to fully understand and yet we dont need too :)

However we may not understand it 100% but there are things that we like to do to TRY and understand our path in life or the things that are happening to us and why. These things are called divination. Many people use different types of divinations from pretty cards with images on them that take your imagation to a whole different world, to different types of cyrstals that have been made by the earth and communicate with different energies and they look mesmerising!

Also people like to sit quietly and think about things and talk to themseleves as well as the spirits around them. This may sound strange and  like a crazzy idea, but its to do with the happiness feeling that i was talking about at the start. Some people get answers that they where looking for or not. It comes in waves or a sudden EUREKA! moment! ... I'll explain.Once again think back to a time where you were struggling and did not know what to do next, didnt understand something, felt lost,sad, confused and even frustrated, you where about to throw in the towel, then out of know where a slap across the back of the head of an idea flooding in! and you've fixed your problem! uve overcome it! uve done it! the joy the happiness all at once! you can hardly contain yourself and cant fix the problem quick enough!....the EUREKA moment! this is the feeling i get when i get my "answer" (even if i dont like it sometimes!)

these insights come from many different places, sometimes yourself, you inner self, your past, knowledge and growth , sometimes even from ansestors before you that give you a message, sometimes even the gods or goddess them selfs!..the point is not to ask WHERE they came from but use the answers to help yourself! and the others around you.

You see my friend, there are things that are still a mystery around us and we dont excatly need to find out what they are 100% becuase we have faith which cant be seen or proven, its just there within us all!

I am a LEAF ..... WATCH me SOAR!
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And the winner is....

Drum roll please... the winner of comp #2 for 2010 as judged by our fabulous guest judge Stonebear is....

Butterfly Spirit! Well done honey, a much deserved win!

Stonebear tells me that the competition was VERY difficult to judge with an amazing array of sensational answers. I agree with his sentiments which were that we are so blessed to have such talented people in Oak and Mistletoe. Thank you Stonebear for judging this one, I know from experience just what a difficult task it is.

Please join me in congratulating Butterfly Spirit. Woohoo! Your herb kit prize will be on it's way very shortly.

Watch out for our next competition to start shortly which has another fabulous prize, this time a wonderful hand-decorated journal made by Seraphimia. Many thanks to her for such a generous gift!

With smiles and blessings,
Amethyst
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CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Excellent choice!

I have been naughty...I haven't yet sent down the prize to Amethyst. But will do so first thing Monday morning (along with that book I was talking about Amethyst).

So dear, wonderful ButterflySpirit you will have your prize very soon.

Richly deserved!

In Love and Light

David

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What a Surprise!!!

Thank You Stonebear! You are more than everyone's words express :) A true gem you are!  thank you with a Hug, a Kiss (oops! I missed your cheek (giggle) !!!) and a tickle to make you giggle!!! This would have been very hard to judge as there are so many excellent answers, and all answers are right, I really enjoyed this question! It is something once again that I wish to share with everyone but I have learnt before that postage knocks it around a bit so I will think of something to do to honour everyone at oak and mistletoe in due time..... the right thing will come to me one day :)

Thank You DavidMichael! The gentleman whom I would like to give a big CUDDLE !!! I have never been able to get my hands on some of these herbs and they will be used Very Wisely and with no haste xoxo

And our Amazing Amethyst is more than Amazing.... she is batty too! giggle, giggle, (if you've read the intro to her book, How and What Witches Learn, you would know where I'm coming from, hehe, It is an excellent book with a great opening and one I can't wait to get stuck into!) xoxoxox  Great Love to you Amethyst, Thank You ♥♥♥

With Love, Butterfly Spirit !

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Michelle2's picture

Congratulations!

Well done ButterflySpirit. Congrats on winning such a great prize. I would love to hear what both you and Desertwoman use the herbs for. I'm very interested in herbs, and with so many wonderful ones in this prize I'm sure you'll use them for some amazing things.


Congratulations again!

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Congrats ! hey ! your a

Congrats ! hey !

your a lucky ducky

But a well deserved duck as well

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thanks desertwoman

When I get them, I will share them with you! I love your name, I love what you do for a job, and I love where you live, I have been in your area a few years ago now, and it would be pretty hard to grow herbs without an awful lot of love and tender care, I will PM you after I get them to find out where I can send some of it, I have digi' scales hehe, so I'll divi' it up with you, I HOPE that's ok with Amythyst, David and Stonebear, but since your not toooo far away, I can handle the postage :) xoxo

I just read over the list again and it is one that we can share with great pleasure! Hopefully we can chat about what we will do with it!

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